What is the connection between the remains of the royal family and the gold that Nicholas II allocated for the creation of the FRS - the US Federal Reserve System? Why is the Rothschild clan promoting the pseudo-heirs of Mary and George of Hohenzollern?
On the new examination of the remains of the royal family
QUESTION: - Father Dmitry! You practically convinced us that the remains that were reburied in 1998 in the Peter and Paul Cathedral in St. Petersburg do not belong to Nicholas II and his family. But then it is surprising that the scale, those huge state funds and capacities with which all these exhumations and examinations are carried out. Are you not embarrassed by those “Stakhanovite” deadlines set by the Government Commission for investigators and experts to confirm the authenticity of the artifacts?
HOLY DIMITRY: – Yes, on July 9, the Prime Minister of the Russian Federation signed a decree on the creation of an interdepartmental working group on the study and reburial of the remains of Tsarevich Alexy Nikolaevich and Grand Duchess Maria Nikolaevna. This group was headed by S. Prikhodko, head of the Government apparatus. The very appointment of an official of this rank to this position testified to the importance of the conceived business. Then the date of reburial was already scheduled - October 18 of this year. That is, a large group of experts and criminologists, headed by the "unsinkable" investigator Solovyov, "took the trump" to quickly "crank" everything - in three months. The pace is taken, one might say, cosmic. Under pressure from the demands of the public, primarily the Church, which insisted on additional investigative examinations, the deadline was moved to February 2016 - not by much, I must say.
Such a sharp start, more precisely, finishing acceleration, according to the plan of falsification, has several causal layers. Let's consider the first one. It is connected, no less, with the future of America itself and the Rothschild clan in particular. I'll try to explain briefly.
At one time, Tsar Nicholas II allocated 48.6 tons of Russian gold, which had been stored in Spain since the time of Alexander II, as gold collateral for the creation of the World Financial Center. With these funds, an organization called the US Federal Reserve System was founded by private American banks. Gold was allocated strictly "with a return" - only for 100 years. From each transaction concluded by the FRS, the Russian Empire (and then the USSR and the Russian Federation) should have received a profit of 4%.
Both sides very unanimously forgot about this, although at the Bretton Woods Conference in 1944 the most important regulatory documents were signed, which secured our right to 88.8% of the Fed's assets (!).
And last winter, the Argumenty Nedeli newspaper published two large articles on the Tsar's Gold. The headlines were appropriate: “Robbers of the country. It's time to pay your debts." The article caused the effect of an exploding bomb. It was read everywhere - from the administration of the President and the Government to both chambers of the Russian Parliament. The Russian Foreign Ministry asked the experts to draw up a certificate for the disclosure of these data to the UN. Specialists in international law predicted our possible actions. The material was also carefully studied in the USA. Our “friends” were most interested in how this topic surfaced in the information field?
Further, the plot developed according to the laws of the international detective genre. On the night of January 30-31, in the library of the Institute for Scientific Information on Social Sciences of the Russian Academy of Sciences, almost the entire archive burns down in a very strange fire. Among the 5.5 million copies of publications destroyed by the flames, these are the most complete, and in some cases the only collections of documents of the League of Nations in Russia, the initiator of which was Emperor Nicholas II. All archival documents of the successor of the League of Nations - the UN and Parliamentary reports of the USA, England, Italy, dated from the end of the 18th century, burned down. All materials by a strange coincidence were not digitized.
A week later, there was a sharp “answer” from Washington: a day later, on the morning of February 1, 2015, the document storage building in the Williamsburg district of Brooklyn caught fire in New York. The archive was extinguished for more than a day. More than 4 million boxes of documents burned down. Although it was reported in all American archives that nothing important was stored there, “in hot pursuit” there was information that it was in this secondary archive that the most important Fed documents were deliberately hidden (it’s funny that perfect fire extinguishing systems were installed in both storages, and documents and in Russia and in the USA - not digitized).
The INION Moscow Library and the New York Archives kept very important documents related to the history of the League of Nations and the World Financial System, the initiator of which was precisely. In particular, in the New York Archives, which burned down, there were papers testifying to the financing of the election campaign of President Woodrow Wilson in 1912 by the Rothschild clan.
It was the Rothschilds in 1913, against the will of Congress and the Senate, who literally forced Wilson to transfer to their private ownership the Federal Reserve System, created instead of the World Financial System and based on the gold of Russia and China. Thus, according to the contributions, the Fed's share of 88.8% still belongs to Russia (the remaining 11.2% belongs to the Chinese).
- Father Dmitry, this is all excitingly interesting. But what does all this have to do with the topic of reburial of the Remains of the Royal Family?
- The most direct. Now Russia is under the strict yoke of economic sanctions. Recently, there was a rumor, allegedly from experts overseas, that the United States is secretly preparing such sanctions against us, after the introduction of which the financial and banking systems of the country will simply collapse. The relevant Russian structures took this very seriously. And there are reasons for that.
First. All money received by our country for exports passes through the Bank for International Settlements, headquartered in Basel. The US controls it almost entirely through its private banks. Blocking our receipt of all foreign exchange earnings is a matter of a few seconds.
Second. Under the "roof" of the largest American financial clans, by decision of the US Congress and Senate, the Department of International Currency Control was created with headquarters in Thailand. This department is under the "roof" of the largest American financial clans and works strictly under their control. All transactions on international accounts in any world currency or in gold equivalent go through this department. And any major project that involves the movement of currency across borders requires the permission of this body.
Third. All foreign exchange earnings in US dollars from Russian exports do not go directly to the accounts of the Central Bank or the Government of the Russian Federation. They are accounted for on the accounts of the FRS servers and are mirrored on the servers of the Russian Central Bank. So, on an instant signal from Washington, Russia may find itself in complete international financial isolation.
And all this is a legacy of the 80-90s, when our country was once again brought to its knees, this time by the "Americans"...
The main thing is further. When transferring Russian gold, special agreements were drawn up in six copies, three of which were stored in America, three were transferred to Russia. Also, 12 "gold" certificates (for 48.6 thousand tons) to bearer were issued.
Currently, only two original agreements and all "golden" certificates are stored in Russia. The third original, which belonged to the Russian Empress Maria Feodorovna, was hidden in a safe deposit box in a Swiss bank after her emigration. However, in 2013 - the year when gold had to be given away - the US managed to "push through" the Swiss Federal Law on International Tax Assistance. The place of storage of the document becomes known and it is confiscated ... And there is a real hunt for the two originals remaining in Russia.
Everything I am talking about is well known to the leadership of our country, which presents every opportunity to strangle the Russian financial system through the Bank for International Settlements and the Department of International Currency Control. But in general, Russia is ripe for leaving the enslaving colonial dependence imposed in the 90s of the last century.
At a time when Russia is taking its first steps (albeit somewhere timid and inconsistent, which are now fashionable to talk about everywhere) to free itself from colonial captivity, there are powerful forces related to the main decision-making centers that have recently been lobbying the so-called the "heir" scenario - new attempts to give official status to Maria Romanova and her son Georgy Hohenzollern.
– Do you mean the official head of the Imperial House of Romanov, Maria Vladimirovna Kulikovskaya-Romanova, and her son George?
- Yes. Those are the ones I mean. This whole "gallop" with the urgent recognition of the falsified remains is part of the whole sinister fuss around these self-styled figures. Competent sources testify that the Rothschilds have already invested more than five billion dollars (!) in the official recognition of Maria Romanova and Georgy Hohenzollern as full-fledged heirs of the Russian Emperor Nicholas II. But for them, the game is worth the candle: in return, the Rothschilds receive a complete renunciation of all the debts of the Russian Empire, including Tsarist gold, which formed the basis of the world power of the Fed and, as a result, the United States.
During perestroika, things almost came to the coronation of Maria Vladimirovna, even tableware was made with personal monograms of self-proclaimed autocrats. But Boris Yeltsin saw this as an attempt on his power (although it was under Yeltsin that Georgy received a Russian passport for his mother's (!) surname Romanov) and prevented this.
After V.V. Putin, the Rothschild case has not died out at all. Maria Vladimirovna, with the support of some oligarchs and "her" bought officials, began to travel around the country, including on a plane assigned to D.A. Medvedev. At the same time, she generously distributed orders to governors and other senior officials that only the Russian Emperor can bestow, in particular, the Order of the Holy Apostle Andrew the First-Called. Grateful "boyars" did not pay attention to the fact that they were awarded by the daughter of a high-ranking fascist officer. The list of awardees is very long and just as curious...
Then the unexpected happened: the head of the clan, Nathaniel Charles Rothschild, at the age of 79, suddenly fell into a coma. At this time, Russia literally from under the nose of the United States took away its "unsinkable aircraft carrier" - Crimea. And the process of recognition of Maria Vladimirovna and George, it was decided to speed up.
Some kind of analytical note (“composed at the very top”) on the preparation of the official recognition of the figure of “Grand Duchess Maria Vladimirovna and her son George” entered the offices of the State Duma. The key phrase of this document is: “The fact of introducing the institution of the monarchy and hereditary government of the country (the Empress Maria Vladimirovna and the heir Georgy), with real control levers from the prime minister supported by the majority of the population of the country, will make it easier to pass the peak economic loads of the coming decades.” This paper then did not find the support of the majority of deputies of the State Duma. Then there was a second attempt to "enter" the Duma, but through the regional parliaments.
In the summer, a very wealthy (according to Forbes) deputy of the Legislative Assembly of the Leningrad Region Vladimir Petrov spoke about the bill "On the special status of representatives of the royal family". But because of the scandal over Petrov's exit from United Russia, which was not forgiven by the "senior comrades" in the party, the bill was again postponed.
The Church has repeatedly, including in the person of Archpriest Vsevolod Chaplin, spoken of the possibility of the revival of the monarchy in modern Russia. Yes, but what kind of monarchy? Chaplin himself “by the decree of the head of the Russian Imperial House, Grand Duchess Maria Vladimirovna Romanova, was “associated” with the Imperial Order of the Holy Equal-to-the-Apostles Prince Vladimir.” No comments...
Attempts to push through the "Heir" project, despite the described opposition of some patriotic officials, will only intensify in the near future. For those who really govern the United States, it is extremely important to destroy even the memory of those documents that I spoke about earlier. Otherwise, their entire empire, based on the ownership of the Fed - that is, the world's "printing press", will simply collapse. This cannot be allowed - especially during the division of the inheritance of the head of the clan N. Rothschild.
This is what underlies the political and economic reasons for such hasty excavations - more precisely, picking in the graves and dancing on the bones of the Yekaterinburg remains. This is not only a falsification of the Royal Remains - this is a desecration of the very Shrine of the Autocratic Russian power, since Maria and George have nothing to do with the succession to the throne, neither actual, nor legal, nor moral. For those interested in these persons, in particular, their ancestor - the Grand Duke Kirill Vladimirovich, there is information on a lot of resources.
At the same time, George Hohenzollern said that he was waiting for Russia to officially recognize his family as a historical dynasty: “We just want to return to a modern and democratic state, thanks to a legal act that would give us the status of a historical dynasty.”
The “Grand Duke” emphasized: “And if the Russian people one day decide to restore the monarchy, they will always have a legitimate heir in the imperial house in the person of my mother.”
Well, in conclusion of the topic about the “Heir”, for reference: the “prince” was the inspector of the European Community for atomic energy, later he held high positions in the Russian Norilsk Nickel.
There are many legends about the attitude of believers to the remains attributed to the royal family and the unsolved mysteries of the murder of the emperor.
The royal family was canonized in 2000, and in the Peter and Paul Cathedral it became possible to perform a prayer service to the royal martyrs in the center of the church. Who believed in the Yekaterinburg remains - went to the Catherine's chapel, who did not believe - did not go. Everything is very democratic, calm.
Archimandrite Alexander (Fedorov)States that his experience as a priest shows that the Orthodox people have a strong intuition, they subtly feel falsehood. The veneration of the royal family has been really growing lately, and if we talk about the topographical expression of this veneration, then the main place, of course, is Ganina Yama near Yekaterinburg and the Cathedral of the Royal Passion-Bearers, built on the site of the Ipatiev House.
Neither the Porosenkov log, where the remains were found in 91, nor the Catherine's aisle of the Peter and Paul Cathedral are such objects.
Bishop Yegorievsk Tikhon reported that the results of studies of the alleged remains of family members of the last Russian emperor Nicholas II, so-called "Ekaterinburg remains" are expected by the end of the second quarter of 2017.
We hope that, since the work is very voluminous and the report will be very large, somewhere by the end of the second quarter of this year we will be able to present the results: the investigators - to the Investigative Committee, and we - to the upcoming Bishops' Council, - said Bishop Tikhon.
As for the issue of recognizing the found remains as relics, here, according to the bishop, “only the Council of Bishops will make the final conclusions,” which will be held from November 29 to December 2, 2017.
The representative of the Church noted that the investigators “have already discovered a lot of interesting, fundamentally important things,” but so far this information cannot be disclosed, since the investigation is still ongoing.
In July 1991, a burial was opened on Staraya Koptyakovskaya Road near Yekaterinburg, which contained the remains of nine people.
According to the study, they belonged to members of the royal family - Emperor Nicholas II, his wife Alexandra Feodorovna, their daughters - Olga, Tatiana, Anastasia as well as those around them. Later, members of the imperial family were buried in the tomb of the Peter and Paul Cathedral in St. Petersburg.
On July 29, 2007, during archaeological excavations 70 km south of the first burial site, the remains of two more people were found. According to the examinations, these are the remains of the Tsarevich Alexey and his sisters Mary.
In January 2011, the Investigative Committee of Russia completed the investigation of the criminal case on the death of the family of Nicholas II, recognizing the remains found near Yekaterinburg as authentic.
Skeptics immediately dismissed this news, because the Bolsheviks shot the emperor along with his family. However, the alleged descendant of the imperial family claims that he has hard evidence.
Konstantin Sevenard, a native of Nizhny Novgorod, descends from French nobles who became Russified back in the 19th century. He claims that his grandmother Tselina Kshesinskaya is the daughter of the legendary ballerina Matilda Kshesinskaya and Nicholas II. Rumors about this stormy romance of the Russian autocrat and prima of the Mariinsky Theater have haunted many historians all these years.
After studying the old photos, the Sevenards came to the conclusion that they are much more noble than they thought before. Fedor Konstantinovich claims that the six-year-old boy in one of the photos of 1911 is his father. And on the left is the ballerina Matilda Kshesinskaya with a stroller. But who is in it? Perhaps the answer is in another photo taken a little earlier. The ballet star poses as if trying to hide her swollen waist. Fedor is sure that in fact she was pregnant with his mother.
In the laboratory, DNA will be isolated from the cell material and compared with the data of Nicholas II, the site writes. Relatives repeat entire sections of the genetic year, so the probability of error is almost reduced to zero.
Does the Russian Orthodox Church, after the latest examinations, recognize the so-called "Ekaterinburg remains" as the remains of the family of the last Russian emperor? The unequivocal answer to this question is still sealed: according to the law, experts cannot disclose the results of research until the investigative file is closed. Nevertheless, as an exception, individual conversations with researchers, with the permission of the Investigative Committee, are now being published by the church portal. On the eve of a large conference on the "Ekaterinburg remains", RIA Novosti correspondent Sergei Stefanov spoke with a well-known Orthodox publicist and historian, researcher of the fate of the royal family, who is authorized by the patriarchal commission to record and publish conversations with experts.
- Anatoly Dmitrievich, why was it decided to publish some of the data?
Studies of the "Ekaterinburg remains", as you know, have a long history. In the 1990s, many Orthodox formed a distrust of the investigation and the results of expert examinations. There are many reasons for this, the main of which is the haste and pressure of the secular authorities on the Church. A new phase of research, launched in 2015, is taking place with the active participation of representatives of the Church. Recently, however, some representatives of the Orthodox community have begun to show concern about the lack of information about the progress of research, and the opinion has begun to spread that they are being carried out behind the scenes, “behind the backs of the people.”
In order to dispel these doubts and rumors, the hierarchy of the Russian Orthodox Church turned to the Investigative Committee of Russia with a request to allow experts bound by a non-disclosure agreement to publicly tell about the results of their work. For greater objectivity, the secretary of the Patriarchal Commission for the Study of the Remains, Bishop Tikhon (Shevkunov) of Yegoryevsky, suggested taking such interviews to three people who were known as active critics of the investigation in the 90s and 2000s: candidate of historical sciences Pyotr Multatuli, historian and journalist Leonid Bolotin and your obedient servant. Multatuli refused, and Leonid Evgenievich and I agreed. For various reasons, I recorded the first few interviews without the participation of Bolotin, although I coordinated the questions for the researchers with him. We recorded an interview with historian Yevgeny Vladimirovich Pchelov together, it will be published soon.
As far as can be judged from previous publications, at first you were a supporter of the point of view that the remains found near Yekaterinburg did not belong to the royal family. But then you changed your position. How did this happen, for what reasons?
I cannot say that I have changed my position. In the 1990s and 2000s, like many representatives of the Orthodox community who were more or less familiar with the topic, I had a lack of confidence in the investigation. Now there is no such distrust. Firstly, because the investigation is taking place in close cooperation and even under the control of the hierarchy of the Russian Orthodox Church, which we have been striving for all these years. Secondly, experts were involved in the study who had previously criticized the conclusions of the investigation and were skeptical about the results of the examinations, for example, the St. Petersburg forensic expert Professor Vyacheslav Popov. Talking with experts, I want first of all to sort out for myself this most complicated, but also the most important problem not only for our past, but, I am sure, for the future as well. For now, I have a lot of questions.
The examinations carried out after the discovery of the remains near Yekaterinburg in the early 1990s raised many questions and doubts. Probably, it was precisely because of this that the Church at that time did not recognize the “Ekaterinburg remains” as royal. What were the main claims made then to the researchers? Can we hope that the current examinations will take into account the mistakes and gaps made?
As is known, the final position of the Church was formulated at a meeting of the Holy Synod on July 17, 1997, on the day when, at the insistence of the secular authorities, the remains were nevertheless buried in the Peter and Paul Fortress without the participation of the patriarch and bishops of the Russian Orthodox Church. The essence of the position of the hierarchy was that it was necessary to continue the work of the state commission, since the Church did not receive convincing answers to the 10 questions put by it at the Synod meeting on October 6, 1995 and elaborated by the commission on November 15, 1995.
Let me remind you of some of them: a complete anthropological study of the skeletal remains; analysis of the conclusions of the investigation of the Kolchak government on the complete destruction of the entire royal family and a comparison of other results of the investigation of 1918-1924 and the modern investigation; graphological, stylistic examination of "Yurovsky's Notes" (on the execution of the royal family. - Approx. ed.); conducting an examination regarding the callus on the skull No. 4 (presumably, Nicholas II. - Approx. ed.); confirmation or refutation of the ritual nature of the murder; confirmation or refutation of evidence of the cutting off of the head of Nicholas II immediately after his assassination. These questions are at the center of experts' attention today. And we hope to get convincing answers to them. And some have already been received.
If you briefly summarize the evidence that has already been made public, what main conclusions, expert opinions could you note? What's new in recent research? For example, I had to come across statements that during the examinations the remains of Alexander III were taken for examination and, on the basis of this, the authenticity of the found remains of Emperor Nicholas II was allegedly confirmed ...
I can only talk about what I have heard from the experts. As far as I know, the genetic examination, including the comparison of the remains of Emperor Alexander III and skeleton No. 4 - the alleged remains of Emperor Nicholas II - has not yet been completed. I, at least, did not talk with geneticists and I can’t say anything about this. I talked with an anthropologist, a dentist, forensic experts, historians. From the new data, one can note the assertion of anthropologist Denis Pezhemsky and forensic expert Vyacheslav Popov that traces of a saber blow were found on skull No. .). This is very important evidence. We are waiting for the publication of photographs and the results of the analysis.
And what kind of examinations are currently being carried out? Which of them, according to your data, have already been completed by now? Which are fundamentally new - not carried out in the 1990s? In general, how would you characterize the level of current research?
As far as I understand, the first task of the new investigation was to put the investigation file in order, since it turned out that there was no documentary evidence of many of the examinations carried out. According to experts, the new investigation is more systemic, many new examinations are being appointed. The previous investigation relied mainly on genetic expertise and paid the main attention to it. Today, in addition to the forensic medical examination, an anthropological examination has been carried out. Yes, and the genetic one is much more thoroughly organized - the genetic material is carefully encrypted, they say, even personally by the most holy patriarch, so that the mosquito does not undermine the nose (we are talking about the numbering of body tissue samples taken for examination personally by Patriarch Kirill. - Approx. ed.).
The historical examination, which in the past raised many questions, continues. A huge number of questions have been put before historians, starting with the circumstances of the so-called abdication of the sovereign and ending with the analysis of the investigative case of Nikolai Sokolov (since 1919 he led the investigation into the murder of the royal family. - Note ed.) and various testimonies of the organizers and participants in the regicide. Historical examination is still ongoing.
The so-called "Yurovsky's Note" raises many questions. As far as I know, not only handwriting expertise is being carried out today, but also author's expertise, designed to answer the question of whether Yurovsky was involved in its compilation, or the note was the work of the Soviet historian Pokrovsky. An attempt is being made to establish, according to the handwriting of the author, the inscription of the couplet from Heinrich Heine on the wall of the basement of the Ipatiev house (Heine's poem refers to the murder of the last Babylonian king Belshazzar. - Approx. ed.).
As far as I know, the new investigation appoints expert examinations in the course of the investigation, if necessary. At one of the last working meetings, the head of the Investigative Committee asked forensic experts to conduct an examination that would answer the question of the possibility of dissolving the human body in sulfuric acid.
- Are there any unsolvable problems that researchers face?
Well, I can only competently judge historical issues. For example, historians are faced with the problem of the loss of some archives, including such an important source as the minutes of meetings of the Presidium of the Ural Regional Council, where the fate of the royal family was discussed. There is a version that the archive disappeared during the Nevyansk anti-Bolshevik uprising. Another problem is that we will probably never know what the main organizers (as one might assume) of the regicide, Yakov Sverdlov and Isaak Goloshchekin, agreed on in July 1918, when Goloshchekin lived with Sverdlov in an apartment in Moscow during the Fifth Congress of Soviets. There are also a number of questions regarding the reconstruction of the historical outline of events, which can only be answered guessingly.
The remains, some believe, of Tsarevich Alexy and Princess Mary were found in 2007; while the alleged remains of the royal couple and her three other daughters are much earlier: in 1991 in the Piglet Log. Are similar examinations carried out with respect to all the remains found?
Two bodies, the remains of which were found in 2007, were burned. Only 170 grams of bones remained of them, and after examinations carried out in 2007 - and some believe, simply because of sloppiness - 70 grams. Therefore, similar examinations cannot be carried out. They say that geneticists managed to take "pure" material for the examination of these remains. But according to the analysis of the preserved bones, the anthropologist Denis Pezhemsky can only assert that these are the remains of an already formed girl and a child, whose age and gender he cannot determine.
In your opinion, what sentiments prevail among Orthodox believers regarding the establishment of the authenticity of the “Ekaterinburg remains”? What is public opinion leaning towards? And how important is this topic for believers?
This problem is very difficult. Unfortunately, the distrust that has formed in the previous investigation sometimes extends to the activities of the current investigation. There are conspiracy theories of the events taking place. However, in general, according to my observations, the majority of believers still have confidence in ongoing research - precisely for the reason that they are taking place in close interaction with the Church. The topic of identification is important primarily for the educated and politically active part of the believers, so it is presented in the media space.
Bishop Tikhon recently stated that the church commission to study the results of the study is under pressure from those who ask to speed up the work, and those who in any case refuse to recognize any results of the work of experts. You are also, one might say, in the thick of things - do you feel this pressure? Who benefits from it?
Vladyka Tikhon, by the way, for many years was among those who were skeptical about the results of the identification of the "Ekaterinburg remains" carried out in the 90s. Like the current His Holiness Patriarch Kirill. It is just stupid and groundless to reproach them for some kind of bias.
There is, indeed, a small but active group of representatives of the Orthodox community, which takes an uncompromising position: they have no questions, and the conclusions of the investigator Nikolai Sokolov about the destruction of the bodies of the royal family and their servants are immutable. On June 18, in Moscow, in the palace of Tsar Alexei Mikhailovich in Kolomenskoye, a conference was held, where this kind of mood prevailed. I participated in this meeting. It was there that I fully felt the pressure, when some people present in the hall interrupted me, tried to disrupt my speech. But I am glad that many of my old friends and colleagues, despite disagreements on some issues, have maintained friendly relations with me.
And what is the reason for the position of those who under no circumstances intend to recognize the found remains as the remains of the Romanov family? Are there many such people, is their influence strong? Is there a potential danger of a split among the Russian Church in connection with this?
Such people, in my experience, are few. And their influence in the Church is not so strong. By the way, they themselves do not represent a kind of monolithic unity, since there are serious disagreements between them on other issues of church life. And in this sense, I do not see a real threat of a split in the Russian Orthodox Church on this issue.
There are many more doubting people who have many questions. There are many such among the bishops and clergy, as well as among the laity. And this is the main challenge for the Church.
I think that the initiative of the hierarchy to start a discussion of the topic is just designed to remove some questions by organizing a broad church discussion.
Is there at least approximate data on when we can expect the final results? Can the Council of Bishops, which is to meet in late November - early December, put an end to this matter? Or could it happen next year?
The position of His Holiness the Patriarch on this matter, as I heard from various sources, is as follows: they will investigate as long as questions remain. Haste is not needed here. The hierarchy is not attached to any dates. Since all the examinations have not yet been completed, it is unlikely that the Council of Bishops will make any decision. Perhaps the bishops will be acquainted with the preliminary results of the examinations, as the members of the Holy Synod were acquainted with them in June of this year. I would like to hope that by the 100th anniversary of the villainous murder of the royal family and their servants - by July 1918 - this issue will become clear.
It must be borne in mind that obtaining the results of examinations is the completion of only the scientific and investigative part of this process. And then, if these are indeed the relics of the holy Royal Passion-Bearers and their servants, they must “reveal themselves” by miracles. The Church, after all, has its own unique thousand-year experience of revealing the authenticity of relics. So, I suppose, the matter will not end with scientific examinations.
It is known that at the end of November - beginning of December a large scientific and practical conference with the participation of experts is planned in Moscow, which will be broadcast on Orthodox TV channels and on the Internet. Can it be argued that the results of expert research will be summarized at this conference and it will become a kind of final event?
I believe that this is the main task of the planned conference. The Orthodox community must hear firsthand the answers to all questions that concern us.
If, nevertheless, we assume that the Church recognizes these remains, then what about Ganina Yama, where there is a monastery in honor of the Royal Passion-Bearers? After all, many Orthodox believe that the monastery was created on the site where the remains of the royal family were destroyed ...
The monastery in honor of the Holy Royal Passion-Bearers on Ganina Yama was created on the site where they mocked the bodies of the martyrs, where they were destroyed. Nothing has changed and nothing will change. Whether the bodies were completely destroyed at Ganina Pit, or they could not be destroyed there and taken to another place, and as a result, only two bodies were able to be burned at the stake, and the rest were buried in a pit in Porosenkov Log, the experts must answer us. If this turns out to be true, the place of veneration in the Piglet Log will simply be added to the place of veneration of the Royal Passion-Bearers on Ganina Yama.
Representatives of the Investigative Committee told Patriarch Kirill at a meeting in the Danilov Monastery on June 14 about the intermediate results of the identification of the remains, which, presumably, belong to the executed members of the family of the last Russian tsar Nicholas II.
The meeting was attended by members of a special patriarchal commission to study the results of the study of the remains.
The results of the meeting in the Danilovsky Monastery, the attitude of the Russian Orthodox Church to the discussion around the authenticity of the "Ekaterinburg remains" and the immediate plans of the patriarchal commission to publish the results of the examination in a short interview with TASS after the meeting were told by the secretary of the commission, the vicar of His Holiness the Patriarch of Moscow and All Russia, Bishop Tikhon (Shevkunov) of Yegorievsk.
Vladyka Tikhon, how did today's meeting go, who took part in it, and what questions, besides the report of the representatives of the Investigative Committee, were discussed at it?
The meeting with His Holiness the Patriarch was devoted to discussing the interim results of the investigation of the Investigative Committee of the Russian Federation on the murder of the royal family and the results of the work of the commission of the Moscow Patriarchate, which is studying the same topic within the framework of the tasks set by His Holiness the Patriarch.
Since 2015, new examinations have been carried out and previous examinations on this issue are being studied. Particular attention is paid to the most thorough historical examination, the questions for which were prepared both by the expert historians themselves and by the Investigative Committee. The list of questions was submitted to the Patriarchal Commission also from members of the public.
- Which members of the public submitted questions to the commission?
These are well-known researchers in their field: Leonid Bolotin, Anatoly Stepanov. They submitted a list of questions to the patriarchal commission. These are very interesting topics and questions. They are taken for study along with the rest.
It is known that some members of the public, including the historian and publicist Leonid Bolotin you mentioned, adhere to the version that the remains of the Romanov family do not exist, and are not going to recognize the results of the examination, whatever they may be. How does the church feel about the debate over the authenticity of the remains?
The tasks of the patriarchal commission, of which I am the secretary, do not include the recognition or non-recognition of the remains. The instruction given to us by His Holiness the Patriarch is to conduct, together with the investigation, independent, objective and verifiable, that is, verifiable examinations in the case of the murder of the family of the holy martyrs and their faithful companions. The results of examinations - forensic, genetic, anthropological and historical archival will be submitted to the conciliar judgment of the church.
Judgment regarding the ecclesiastical veneration or non-veneration of the "Ekaterinburg remains" as holy relics is authorized to be made only by the conciliar mind of the Orthodox Church. Before that, all other judgments can certainly take place, since research continues today, and therefore a very important discussion continues.
This is to be welcomed. In what form these judgments are expressed is a question, if I may say so, of the genre of the same discussion: in Russia, controversy often takes place in very categorical and harsh forms. I don't see anything unusual in this.
The remains of the royal family in Yekaterinburg, 1998
The meeting with the patriarch was held behind closed doors, but nevertheless, could you tell in the most general terms about its results?
There were so many interesting things in the reports and messages, in the debates and presentations that, with all my desire, I cannot retell it in a short interview: the meeting with the patriarch lasted about five hours.
Now we simply do not have the right to divulge the secret of the investigation: all experts gave the signatures and obligations required by our Code of Criminal Procedure.
But as for what happened after the meeting with the leadership and experts of the Investigative Committee, here I can report that it may be of interest to everyone who follows this topic. At the end of the main meeting, His Holiness gathered the participants present from the Patriarchal Commission.
Here it was proposed and decided to ask the Investigative Committee for permission to publish those materials of the investigation, the examination of which has been completed. The commission will also ask the RF Investigative Committee for permission for permanent and involved experts to give interviews and comments on questions and topics, answers to which have already been received, even before the end of the investigation.
We very much hope for the consent of the Investigative Committee, and then it will be possible to organize a constructive discussion in a wide variety of forms on new and previously existing facts and versions.
Have previously unknown facts been discovered in the course of the investigation, examinations and research, and when will it be possible to see the first publications of the results of the examination?
Yes, they showed up. And there are a lot of them. That's all that can be said for now. If permission from the Investigative Committee is obtained, the first publications will be available this summer.
Interviewed by Gleb Bryansky
November 27, 2017, 09:35According to official history, on the night of July 16-17, 1918, Nicholas II, along with his wife and children, was shot. After the burial was opened and identified, the remains were reburied in 1998 in the tomb of the Peter and Paul Cathedral in St. Petersburg. However, then the ROC did not confirm their authenticity.
“I cannot rule out that the church will recognize the royal remains as authentic if convincing evidence of their authenticity is found and if the examination is open and honest,” said Metropolitan Hilarion of Volokolamsk, head of the Department for External Church Relations of the Moscow Patriarchate, in July this year. In December, all the conclusions of the Investigative Committee and the commission of the Russian Orthodox Church will be considered by the Council of Bishops. It is he who will decide on the attitude of the church to the Yekaterinburg remains.
Almost a detective story with the remains
As you know, the Russian Orthodox Church did not participate in the burial of the remains of the royal family in 1998, explaining this by the fact that the church is not sure whether the true remains of the royal family are buried. The Russian Orthodox Church refers to the book of the Kolchak investigator Nikolai Sokolov, who concluded that all the bodies were burned. Some of the remains collected by Sokolov at the place of burning are stored in Brussels, in the church of St. Job the Long-suffering, and they have not been examined.
For the first time, researchers were led to the place of discovery of the remains (on the Old Koptyakovskaya Road) by Yurovsky's note, in which he describes in detail where and how he buried the corpses of the royal family. But why did the malicious murderer give a detailed report to his descendants, where should they look for evidence of the crime? Moreover, a number of modern historians put forward the version that Yurovsky belonged to an occult sect and certainly was not interested in the further veneration of holy relics by believers. If he wanted to confuse the investigation in this way, then he definitely achieved his goal - the case of the murder of Nicholas II and his family under the symbolic number 18666 has been shrouded in a halo of mystery for many years and contains a lot of conflicting data
Is Yurovsky's note authentic, on the basis of which the authorities were looking for a burial place? And now, Doctor of Historical Sciences, Professor Buranov, finds in the archive a handwritten note written by Mikhail Nikolaevich Pokrovsky, and by no means Yakov Mikhailovich Yurovsky. The grave is clearly marked there. That is, the note is a priori false. Pokrovsky was the first director of the Rosarkhiv. It was used by Stalin when history had to be rewritten. He has a famous expression: "History is politics turned into the past." Since Yurovsky's note was a fake, it was impossible to detect a burial from it.
And now, in the upcoming year of the 100th anniversary of the execution of the Romanov family, the Russian Orthodox Church has been instructed to give a final answer to all the dark places of execution near Yekaterinburg. To obtain a final answer under the auspices of the Russian Orthodox Church, research has been conducted for several years. Once again, historians, geneticists, graphologists, pathologists and other specialists are rechecking the facts, powerful scientific forces and prosecutors are again involved, and all these actions again take place under a dense veil of secrecy.
But at the same time, no one remembers that after the capture of Yekaterinburg by the Whites, in turn, three commissions of the Whites made an unequivocal conclusion - there was no execution. Neither the Reds nor the Whites wanted to disclose this information. The Bolsheviks were interested in the money of the king, and Kolchak declared himself the Supreme Ruler of Russia, which could not be with a living sovereign. Before investigator Sokolov, the only investigator who published a book about the execution of the royal family, there were investigators Malinovsky, Nametkin (his archive was burned along with his house), Sergeev (dismissed from the case and killed). The investigating commissions cited facts and testimonies refuting the execution. But they were soon forgotten, since the 4th commission of Sokolov and Diteriks essentially fabricated the case of the execution of the Romanovs. They did not bring any facts to prove their theory, just as the investigators did not bring any facts in the 90s.
In the fall of 2015, investigators resumed the investigation into the death of members of the Romanov family. Currently, research on genetic identification is carried out by four independent groups of scientists. Two of them are foreign, working directly with the ROC. At the beginning of July 2017, the secretary of the church commission for studying the results of the study of the remains found near Yekaterinburg, Bishop Tikhon (Shevkunov) of Yegoryevsk, said: a large number of new circumstances and new documents were discovered. For example, Sverdlov's order to execute Nicholas II was found. In addition, according to the results of recent research, forensic experts confirmed that the remains of the king and queen belong to them, since a trace was suddenly found on the skull of Nicholas II, which is interpreted as a trace from a saber blow he received when visiting Japan. As for the queen, dentists identified her by the world's first porcelain veneers on platinum pins. Examinations are also currently being carried out to establish the authenticity of the remains found in 2007, possibly those of Tsarevich Alexei and Grand Duchess Maria.
Although, if you open the conclusion of the commission, written before the burial in 1998, it says: the bones of the sovereign's skull are so destroyed that the characteristic callus cannot be found. The same conclusion noted severe damage to the teeth of the alleged remains of Nikolai by periodontal disease, since this person had never been to the dentist. This confirms that it was not the tsar who was shot, since the records of the Tobolsk dentist, whom Nikolai turned to, remained. In addition, the fact that the growth of the skeleton of "Princess Anastasia" is 13 centimeters larger than her lifetime growth has not yet been found. Shevkunov did not say a word about the genetic examination, and this despite the fact that the genetic studies of 2003, conducted by Russian and American specialists, showed that the genome of the body of the alleged Empress and her sister Elizabeth Feodorovna do not match, which means there is no relationship.
In addition, in the museum of the city of Otsu (Japan) there are things left after the injury of the policeman Nicholas II. They have biological material that can be examined. According to them, Japanese geneticists from the Tatsuo Nagai group proved that the DNA of the remains of "Nicholas II" from near Yekaterinburg (and his family) does not 100% match the DNA of biomaterials from Japan. The publication by Japanese geneticists of the results of a study of human remains, which the official Russian authorities recognized as the remains of the family of Nikolai Romanov, made a lot of noise. After analyzing the DNA structures of the Yekaterinburg remains and comparing them with the DNA analysis of the brother of Nicholas II, Grand Duke Georgy Romanov, the natural nephew of Emperor Tikhon Kulikovsky-Romanov, and DNA taken from sweat particles from the imperial clothes, Tatsuo Nagai, a professor at the Tokyo Institute of Microbiology, came to the conclusion that the remains , discovered near Yekaterinburg, do not belong to Nicholas II and members of his family. The results of this examination showed the obvious incompetence of the entire government commission, which was created under the leadership of Boris Nemtsov. Tatsuo Nagai's conclusions are a very strong argument that is difficult to refute.
This gave particular weight to the arguments of that group of historians and geneticists who are sure that in 1998 absolutely alien remains were buried in the Peter and Paul Fortress under the guise of the imperial family with great fanfare. Neither the leadership of the Russian Church, nor representatives of the Romanov family came to the pretentious burial of the Ekaterinburg remains. Moreover, then Patriarch Alexy II took the word from Boris Yeltsin that he would not call the remains royal.
There are also results of a genetic examination of the President of the International Association of Forensic Physicians, Mr. Bonte from Düsseldorf. According to German scientists, these are the remains of the Filatovs, the twins of Nicholas II. Nicholas II had seven families of twins. The system of twins began with Alexander the First. Historically, it is known that there were two assassination attempts on him. Both times he remained alive, because doubles died. Alexander II had no twins. Alexander the Third had doubles after the famous train crash in Borki. Nicholas II had twins after Bloody Sunday 1905. Moreover, these were specially selected families. Only at the last moment did a very narrow circle of people find out which route and in which carriage Nicholas II would go. And so the same departure of all three carriages was made. In which of them Nikolai II was sitting is unknown. Documents about this lie in the archives of the third branch of the office of His Imperial Majesty. The Bolsheviks, having seized the archive in 1917, naturally received the names of all the doubles.
Perhaps, from the remains of the Filatovs in 1946, the “remains of the royal family” were created? It is known that in 1946 Anna Andersen, a resident of Denmark, tried to get royal gold. By starting the second process of recognizing himself as Anastasia. Her first process did not end with anything, it lasted until the mid-30s. Then she paused and in 1946 filed a lawsuit again. Stalin, apparently, decided that it would be better to make a grave where "Anastasia" would lie, than to explain these issues to the West.
Further, the very place of execution of the Romanovs, the Ipatiev House, was demolished in 1977. In the mid-70s of the XX century, the government of the USSR was very worried about the increased attention of foreigners to the house of engineer Ipatiev. In 1978, two round dates were planned at once: the 110th anniversary of the birth of Nicholas II and the 60th anniversary of his assassination. In order to avoid the excitement around the Ipatiev house, KGB chairman Yuri Andropov proposed to demolish it. The final decision to destroy the mansion was made by Boris Yeltsin, who was then the first secretary of the Sverdlovsk regional committee of the Communist Party.
The Ipatiev House, which stood for almost 90 years, was razed to the ground in September 1977. For this, the destroyers took 3 days, a bulldozer and a ball-woman. The official pretext for the destruction of the building was the planned reconstruction of the city center. But it is possible that this is not the case at all - the microparticles that meticulous researchers could find could already at that time refute the legend of the execution of the royal family, and give other versions of events and their defendants! Then there was already, albeit inaccurate, genetic analysis.
Financial background
As you know, in the bank of the Baring brothers, there is gold, personal gold of Nicholas II weighing five and a half tons. There is a long-term study by Professor Vladlen Sirotkin (MGIMO) "Foreign Gold of Russia" (M., 2000), where the gold and other holdings of the Romanov family accumulated in the accounts of Western banks are also estimated at no less than 400 billion dollars, and together with investments - in more than 2 trillion dollars! In the absence of Romanov heirs, the closest relatives turn out to be members of the English royal family... These are the interests of which may be the underlying reason for many events of the 19th-21st centuries... But the bank cannot give them this gold until Nicholas II is declared dead. According to the laws of Great Britain, the absence of a corpse and the absence of documents declaring a wanted list means that the person is alive.
By the way, it is not clear (or, on the contrary, it is understandable) for what reasons the royal house of England denied asylum three times to the Romanov family. And this despite the fact that the mothers of George V and Nicholas II were sisters. In the surviving correspondence, Nicholas II and George V call each other "Cousin Nicky" and "Cousin Georgie" - they were cousins, almost the same age, spent a lot of time together and were very similar in appearance.
At that time, 440 tons of gold from the gold reserves of Russia and 5.5 tons of personal gold of Nicholas II were in England as collateral for military loans. Now think about it: if the royal family died, then to whom would the gold go? Close relatives! Isn't that the reason why Cousin Georgie was denied admission to Cousin Nicky's family? To get gold, its owners had to die. Officially. And now all this must be connected with the burial of the royal family, which will officially testify that the owners of untold wealth are dead.
Versions of life after death
The first version: the royal family was shot near Yekaterinburg, and their remains, with the exception of Alexei and Maria, were reburied in St. Petersburg. The remains of these children were found in 2007, all examinations were carried out on them, and they, apparently, will be buried on the day of the 100th anniversary of the tragedy. When confirming this version, it is necessary for accuracy to once again identify all the remains and repeat all examinations, especially genetic and pathological anatomical ones.
The second version: the royal family was not shot, but was dispersed throughout Russia and all family members died of natural causes, having lived their lives in Russia or abroad, while a family of twins was shot in Yekaterinburg.
The surviving members of the royal family were watched by people from the KGB, where a special department was created for this, which was dissolved during perestroika. The archive of this department has been preserved. The royal family was saved by Stalin - the royal family was evacuated from Yekaterinburg through Perm to Moscow and fell into the hands of Trotsky, then People's Commissar of Defense. To further save the royal family, Stalin carried out a whole operation, stealing it from Trotsky's people and taking them to Sukhumi, to a specially built house next to the former house of the royal family. From there, all family members were distributed to different places, Maria and Anastasia were taken to the Glinsk desert (Sumy region), then Maria was transported to the Nizhny Novgorod region, where she died of illness on May 24, 1954. Anastasia subsequently married Stalin's personal bodyguard and lived very secluded on a small farm, died
June 27, 1980 in the Volgograd region. The eldest daughters, Olga and Tatyana, were sent to the Serafimo-Diveevsky convent - the empress was settled not far from the girls. But they did not live here for long. Olga, having traveled through Afghanistan, Europe and Finland, settled in Vyritsa, Leningrad Region, where she died on January 19, 1976. Tatyana lived partly in Georgia, partly in the territory of the Krasnodar Territory, was buried in the Krasnodar Territory, died on September 21, 1992. Alexei and his mother lived in their dacha, then Alexei was transferred to Leningrad, where he was "made" a biography, and the whole world recognized him as a party and Soviet leader Alexei Nikolaevich Kosygin (Stalin sometimes called him a prince in front of everyone). Nicholas II lived and died in Nizhny Novgorod (December 22, 1958), and the tsarina died in the village of Starobelskaya, Lugansk region, on April 2, 1948, and was subsequently reburied in Nizhny Novgorod, where she and the emperor share a common grave. Three daughters of Nicholas II, except for Olga, had children. N.A. Romanov talked with I.V. Stalin, and the wealth of the Russian Empire was used to strengthen the power of the USSR ...
