There are many respected soldiers-liberators, including those in general's shoulder straps. But I can’t understand: why are some so aggressively defending the name of the “military figure” who was haunted by Soviet propaganda, who laid down near Kiev (more precisely, drowned in the Dnieper, as historians say), more than 400 thousand Soviet soldiers? Declassified archives testify that the losses of the Red Army would have been much less if Marshal of the Soviet Union Georgy Zhukov, as a representative of the headquarters in the troops of the Voronezh Front (later the 1st Ukrainian, which received the capital of Ukraine) and the commander of this front, General of the Army Nikolai Vatutin, had not rushed fulfill Stalin's whim - at any cost to liberate Kyiv by November 6, 1943, the next anniversary of the revolution.
The command of the Red Army was well aware that our troops were not ready to force the Dnieper, behind which the enemy had managed to gain a good foothold. But no one paid any attention to this. To crush the Germans (as was the case more than once during the war), we had to "live meat". Therefore, abandoned by Zhukov “Do not spare the soldiers: women still give birth!” sounded like an order. And Vatutin, the “liberator” of Kyiv, drove hundreds of thousands of fighters into the cold Dnieper water, including even teenagers.
This is confirmed by Viktor Korol, a doctor of historical sciences, a lecturer at Taras Shevchenko National University of Kyiv, who cites the memoirs of medical instructor Tatiana Barabash about the so-called field military registration and enlistment offices: 20-30 soldiers from 2-3 officers and dragged all the men out into the street. Each of them was already an enemy, because he lived under the Germans.
Tatyana recalled how in September 1943 a meeting was held in Trebukhov (Brovarsky district of the Kiev region), in which Zhukov, Rokossovsky and Vatutina Kovalenko, the guarantor, took part. “The question arose of what to do with 300,000 mobilized teenagers. It was necessary to equip them, teach them, feed them, train them, and then throw them into attacks. That Zhukov summed up clearly and clearly. He says: why are we, friends, racking our brains, all crests are traitors, the more we sink in the Dnieper, the less we will have to exile to Siberia after the war!
Therefore, the fate of these young men and men of military age was determined. For in the interpretation of the NKVD, Smersh and other Soviet repressive agencies, they all served the Nazis. The Khokhls were not given any military uniforms or weapons. In home clothes (usually in black, that's why they called this army "black infantry", or "black shirts") they got weapons in battle.
Eyewitnesses of the battle for Kyiv (historians have even found stories of German officers) recall how one general wept, seeing how the cold water carried away hundreds of bodies of the "black infantry". The guys were drowning not only from the fact that they were hit by bullets and fragments of German shells that rained down like hail, but also because ... they did not know how to swim. Some German officer, looking at the senseless killing of unshooted youth, exclaimed: "It's like you need not to love your soldiers in order to send them to certain death."
By the way, in the German army they treated the rank and file in a completely different way: after the Battle of Kursk, saving the soldiers, Field Marshal Manstein carried out a brilliant operation, transporting four German armies to the right bank of the Dnieper (almost without losses). With six undamaged bridges across the river, he first evacuated 200,000 wounded German soldiers and hundreds of thousands of Ukrainian civilians, mostly with cattle, who did not want to live "under the Bolsheviks." And then almost a million combat-ready units crossed over.
Hitler's tank general Raus wrote that the success of the crossing of the German troops was ensured by ... the Red Army. "To our surprise, the Soviet aircraft did not show up until 90% of our troops, weapons and equipment had completed the crossing."
Vatutin's defenders, of course, do not know all this (although they could read it on the Internet if they wished). Therefore, in order for this Kyiv public, zombified by Soviet propaganda, to cool off somewhat, I suggest that they swim across the Dnieper from the left bank to the right. Not even in cold, as in 1943, water, but in the current warm one. Without clothes that pull to the bottom, without weapons and not under machine gun fire. Maybe then not Vatutin, but those whom he drowned, will be pitied?
During the discussion of my posts about historical myths in the interpretation of the doctor of historical sciences S. Mironenko, where he calls the feat of the Panfilovs a fiction, the phrase “Don’t feel sorry for soldiers, women still give birth” popped up several times, which S. Mironenko attributed to Klim Voroshilov in this interview, but For some reason, contrary to his custom, he did not name the source of information.
Although he mentioned it several times and in such a description, as if he had heard it himself. In his interview, it sounded like this: - "Don't feel sorry for soldiers, women still give birth"?
This phrase is attributed to Georgy Zhukov. In fact, it was said in a different situation and by another military leader - Klim Voroshilov. And a little later, speaking about General Vlasov: "Vlasov was required to withdraw equipment in the first place. Klim Voroshilov demanded, then these words were said to him -" women give birth to soldiers "
The bloggers who discussed the posts noted that a similar phrase in slightly modified interpretations is attributed to many commanders - from Menshikov and Sheremetyev to Zhukov and Voroshilov. I tried to find the source. And I'm not sure I succeeded. But there is something.
At a minimum, it is obvious that if one of the leaders of the Second World War and the Great Patriotic War said so, for example, Churchill claimed that he would fight Hitler to the last Russian soldier, then he certainly was not the first.
Moreover, one gets the impression that this expression is almost a kind of banal thought that should be said to a historical person at the sight of the dead, so as not to be considered sensitive.
Only it was said before the revolution a little differently: "Take care of the horses, women give birth to soldiers."
One of the first articles on this topic I came across a publication called "The origin of the phrase:" Do not spare soldiers, women still give birth! ". The secrecy has been removed". The article is preceded by a very intriguing statement: But with all the variety of candidates for the authors of this "winged expression", which has become a kind of "meme", you should pay attention to TWO FACTS:
1) None of the authors ranting on this topic (who put this phrase into someone's mouth - for example, "the bloody Stalinist butcher Marshal Zhukov told Eisenhower:" There are a lot of soldiers! no references to real historical documents where this phrase is fixed, so to speak.
2) All the "authors" of the "meme" who pronounce this phrase are Russians. And not simple, but major military leaders (Apraksin, Menshikov, Zhukov ...) or leaders of the state (Peter I, Catherine the Great, ...). In the light of which, this phrase and this plot become frankly Russophobic, with a clearly expressed frankly Hitlerite-fascist hint at the inferiority of the Russian nation and its leaders, leaders.
From where, the continuation automatically follows ("the second series" of the Russophobic movie) - "They filled up with corpses! That's why they won! Russians (Stalin, Zhukov, Bolsheviks, commies, ...) do not know how to fight differently !!!"
It all ends with the "fourth series": "But in the West (Americans, Germans, in Tsarist Russia ...) ..." In fact, this phrase came to Russia from England.
There was a tradition in the English fleet when a warship was sunk (in battle), then the captain or senior officer would say the ritual phrase: "The king has a lot!".
How did the phrase come to Russia and come into use?
She got it thanks to this person:
And then follows a fragment of a letter from Alexandra Feodorovna to her husband Nicholas II, written in 1916. And it contains the phrase: The generals know that we still have many soldiers in Russia, and therefore do not spare lives". Actually, the phrase sounded a little different. But the idea was conveyed correctly.
"I can't be silent!
On July 7, 2011, the Komsomolskaya Pravda newspaper published an interview with Larisa Kaftan with the director of the State Archive of the Russian Federation, Doctor of Historical Sciences Sergey Mironenko. In this interview, he, in particular, said (answer to the fourth question of the published text):
“For the Soviet authorities, it was all the same who was a hero, who was not a hero, in general, a person was nothing. The famous words of the Soviet commander: “It is necessary to save equipment, and women give birth to new soldiers” - this is about the attitude towards a person. Therefore, it is not necessary to repeat the historical inventions of the Soviet government and worship non-existent idols, just as real heroes should not be forgotten. After all, there were real heroes, they defended Moscow, but then nobody cared about them.
There is such a thing as historical truth. Interpretations of events may be different, but we will never clear the truth from ideological layers if we consider fiction invented to please the rulers as a fact. Then it is no longer history, not science.”
I was surprised that, citing a certain “Soviet commander”, Mr. Mironenko did not name him, and after all, the lot of a historian is the accuracy of facts. In fact, in the same response he says: “Interpretations of events may be different, but we will never clear the truth from ideological layers if we consider fiction invented to please the rulers as a fact. Then it is no longer history, not science.”
I decided to find the truth and establish the fact - who is this ruthless Soviet commander who uttered the phrase quoted by Mr. Mironenko, for which he used the full power of the World Wide Computer Network Internet, namely the Google and Yandex search services.
However, all references to this phrase in the form in which Mr. Mironenko quoted it lead exclusively to ... all the same interview of Mr. Mironenko to Komsomolskaya Pravda, to discussions of this interview or to other attempts to find out its authorship caused by this interview.
Having made the search conditions softer, I found that in Runet (that is, in the Russian-speaking part of the Internet) a similar phrase is attributed to Marshal S. M. Budyonny, who, being the commander of the Reserve Front (that is, in September or October 1941), allegedly said: “We threw cannon fodder at them, what a pity for the soldiers, the women give birth to new ones. But where to get horses?
The phrase sounds dashing, but none of the resources that cite it has the slightest indication of the original source. At the same time, I am absolutely sure that if such a source actually existed, it would not be difficult to find such a convincing propaganda trump card.
One might even think that the original source of this quote, somewhat rethought, is the story “The Tribunal” by Mikhail Weller (first published in Ogonyok No. 24/4699, 2001):
“Budyonny was covered with small beads and scratched with a pen. Gorky coughed loudly into his handkerchief, blew his nose, and wiped away his tears:
- My dear, don't you feel sorry for the soldiers killed in vain? With a canister bullet in the stomach, writhing on ice is not comme il faut ... in the sense of not comfort. Worse loops. But all the Russian people, yesterday's peasants ... you deceived them, they trusted you.
- And to us, the nobles, only our tummy is dear.
Budyonny was delighted at the opportunity to tear himself away from the letter.
- And the soldiery, cannon fodder, gray cattle - this is smoke for us, it doesn’t give a damn. Zhukov waved his hand: - The soldiers give birth to new women for you. Russia is big. I would put it down for business - it's not a pity. The operation failed miserably. Criminal!
However, here the words dedicated to the childbearing duties of long-suffering Russian women are put into the mouth of a new historical character - Marshal G.K. Zhukov.
The fact that these words were spoken by Zhukov was authoritatively told to the people by Eduard Volodarsky, the author of the script for the series "Shtrafbat", in an interview with Mark Deutsch, published in the newspaper "Moskovsky Komsomolets" No. 1386 of December 22, 2001.
“- In one of your interviews, you called Zhukov a “butcher” ...
- That's not what I called him. So the soldiers called him - at the front, Zhukov had a nickname: The Butcher. For some reason, everyone forgets about Zhukov's attitude towards soldiers. General Eisenhower writes in his memoirs how he saw a huge field near Potsdam, strewn with the corpses of Russian soldiers. Fulfilling the order of Zhukov, they stormed the city in the forehead - under the dagger fire of the Germans.
The sight of this field startled Eisenhower. He felt uneasy, and he asked Zhukov (not verbatim, but I vouch for the meaning): “What the hell did this Potsdam surrender to you? Why did you put so many people behind him?
In response, Zhukov smiled and said (I remember these words reproduced by Eisenhower exactly): “Nothing, Russian women still give birth.”
Marshal Zhukov possessed the cruelty that has long been a characteristic feature of the Russian generals. Only a few took care of the soldiers. Suvorov, Brusilov, Kornilov ... That, perhaps, is all. Other soldiers did not spare. And the Soviet generals were no better.”
Dwight Eisenhower's book "Crusade to Europe" mentions various points that can be interpreted ambiguously, but there is no such or similar phrase allegedly heard by the future US president from Zhukov, not only in the Russian translation, but also in the English original.
In addition, Potsdam took the 1st Ukrainian Front under the command of I. S. Konev, the city was finally taken on May 2, 1945.
Zhukov met with Eisenhower in Berlin on May 7-8 before signing the Act of Unconditional Surrender of Nazi Germany, then, indeed, in Potsdam - at the Conference of the Heads of Government of the USSR, the USA and Great Britain, which was held from July 17 to August 2.
The presence, asserted by the playwright Volodarsky, during this period near Potsdam, for two and a half not the coldest months littered with the corpses of Russian soldiers, only makes one doubt his ability to reason, and it seems to me that a defamation suit could well be brought against him as a marshal Zhukov and Army General Eisenhower, if they were alive.
As for Marshal Zhukov, indeed, he repeatedly expressed his opinion about the losses of the Red Army, and his genuine quotes are easy to find in a variety of documents published in paper and electronic form. Here, for example, is an illustrative fragment of the recording of his negotiations held on March 7, 1942 with the commander of the 49th Army, Lieutenant General I. G. Zakharkin:
“In vain do you think that successes are achieved by human meat, successes are achieved by the art of warfare, they fight with skill, and not with the lives of people”
But let's get back to the phrase under study. The scatter of the names of those who "pronounced" it is very large.
So, Colonel General D. Volkogonov in his opus "Triumph and Tragedy" "overheard" her from Generalissimo Stalin.
And in the book of Alexander Bushkov and Andrey Burovsky "Russia that was not - 2. Russian Atlantis" there is a historical anecdote in which Field Marshal Boris Petrovich Sheremetev says it:
“A story has been preserved, one of those in the authenticity of which it is difficult to be sure. 1703, storming of Narva. Before each breach in the wall - piles of corpses - the guards of Peter. Peter knew many personally, and was friendly with many. And Peter wept, looking at these still warm heaps of the dead. Boris Petrovich Sheremetev came up from behind, put his hand on the tsar's shoulder. A fifty-year-old caressed a thirty-year-old. "Don't cry, my lord! What you! Women give birth to new ones!"
However, some believe that Alexander Menshikov said these words to Peter I after the battle with the Swedes, and some believe that Peter Alekseevich himself said them before the Battle of Poltava.
In the Russian-German film "Midshipmen-III" (1992), Field Marshal S. F. Apraksin says during the battle of Gross-Jägersdorf that horses that cost money must be taken away, and women give birth to new soldiers. .
This is what happens: the screenwriters of this film (N. Sorotokina, Yu. Nagibin and S. Druzhinina) dared to put into the mouth of the noblest nobleman a phrase allegedly uttered almost 200 years after the events depicted in the film by a marshal of peasant blood?
There is also “information” on the Internet that one of the variants of the phrase under study was uttered by Nicholas II, who until historically recent times was called “Bloody”, and now recognized as the “Martyr in the host of New Martyrs and Confessors of Russia”, having learned about the price of the Brusilov breakthrough.
However, she and his predecessors Alexander II and Catherine II, as well as other characters in Russian history, “spoke” it. It cannot be ruled out that the phrase about “they are still giving birth” is a “world heritage”. She very cleverly gives an animal image to those into whose mouths she puts it.
Sometimes the authorship of "catch phrases and expressions" can be reliably established; yes, the famous expression "There is a person - there is a problem, no person - there is no problem" so talentedly put into the mouth of I.V. Stalin by the writer A.N. Rybakov (“Children of the Arbat”, 1987) that few doubt his “Stalinist” origin.
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Olga Tonina, Alexander Afanasiev Origin of the phrase: " Soldiers do not regret, women still give birth !". The classification has been removed. "There is much Horatio in the world that our wise men never dreamed of" (C) This phrase in various interpretations was attributed to many - both Peter I, and Apraksin (under the same Peter I), and Catherine the Great, and Marshal G.K. Zhukov. But with all the variety of candidates for the authors of this "winged expression", which has become a kind of "meme", one should pay attention to TWO FACTS: 1) None of the authors ranting on this topic (who put this phrase into someone's mouth - for example Stalin's butcher Marshal Zhukov told Eisenhower: "There are a lot of soldiers! Why feel sorry for them? Women are still giving birth!..."), does not provide any references to real historical documents, where this phrase is recorded, so to speak. 2) All "authors" of the "meme" those who pronounce this phrase are Russians, and not ordinary, but major military leaders (Apraksin, Menshikov, Zhukov...) or leaders of the state (Peter I, Catherine the Great,...). Russophobic, with a clearly pronounced frankly Hitlerite-fascist hint at the inferiority of the Russian nation and its leaders, leaders. From where, the continuation automatically follows ("the second series" of the Russophobic movie) - "They filled up with corpses! That's why they won! Russians (Stalin, Zhukov, Bolsheviks, commies, ...) don’t know how to fight in a different way !!! "Next comes the" third series "about" one rifle for three "," Penal battalions "," detachments "," cuttings from shovels "from Mikita Nakhalkov. It all ends with the "fourth series": "But in the West (Americans, Germans, in Tsarist Russia ...) ..." In fact, this phrase came to Russia from England. There was a tradition in the English fleet when a warship was sunk (in battle), the captain or senior officer would say the ritual phrase: “The king has a lot!” How did the phrase get into Russia and come into use? 4 (17) August 1916: " My dear angel! It's already 1 o'clock, but I still want to start a letter to you, because tomorrow I will be very busy. We rode well, and my heart behaved quite well; I only drank tea with the rest, and had breakfast and dinner in my compartment - all the time I lay and embroidered, and my thoughts constantly hovered around you, my treasures, and I mentally relived this happy, calm week. I am alone in my big empty bedroom, and I can only baptize and kiss your pillow! Wonderful moon and so quiet - marvelous weather today and not very hot. A. spent the evening with us: she lost weight this week, looks tired, it is clear that she cried a lot. We are notmwe talked a little - after the children had gone to bed. On Monday she is going with our Friend and dear Lily to Tobolsk to venerate the relics of the newly-appeared saint. She is in despair that she must go so far without your direction, and at the same time that I have just returned here, but He wants her to go now, finding that now is the right time. - He asks if what the newspapers write about the freedoms is true. Slavic prisoners of war. He hopes that this is not so, for that would be the greatest mistake (please answer this question). - He is upset by rumors that Guchkov and Rodzianko have started organizing the collection of copper; if so, then, in his opinion, they should be deprived of the initiative in this - it is not their business at all. Asks you to be very strict with the generals in case of mistakes. You see, everyone is terribly indignant at Bezobrazov, everyone shouts that he allowed the guards to be beaten, that Lesh, retreating for 5 days, gave the order to B. to advance, but he put off everything and, thanks to his perseverance, lost everything. Wounded shooters, and the rest do not hide their indignation. A. received an extremely interesting but sad letter from N.P. - he describes what they had to do, but speaks with desperation about the generals, about Bez., - how they, knowing nothing, ordered the guards to advance through obviously impassable swamps, and how they were ordered to bypass other swamps, where it was possible to freely to pass, - he says that the most disgusting impression was created from this, he regrets that he must upset me with all this, but still asks to convey all this to me. Here everyone hopes that you will remove Bez .; I hoped so from the very beginning; sure, it's not that hard to find a substitute for him, and at least one who isn't as stubborn as a mule. The Guards will never forgive him for this, and it will be unpleasant for them that you support him like that and that he uses it by the right of an old comrade. Forgive me, but the more calmly I thought about what Pavel wrote and what Dmitry and others said in the carriage, the more and more honorably I found that he should leave - this will be a brilliant proof of your wisdom. He criminally ruined your guards and will again not get along with Lesh and Brusilov - you graciously helped him get out of last year's story and gave him a great opportunity to rehabilitate himself, which he shamefully abused - this should not go unpunished. Let him suffer, but others will benefit from this example. I regret that I didn’t talk about this more insistently at headquarters, and not with Alekseev at that - your prestige would have been saved, otherwise they would say that you are showing weakness, that you are not defending your guard, which you love so much, - don't risk another failure.The generals know that we still have many soldiers in Russia, and therefore do not spare lives, - but these were superbly trained troops and all - in vain. I know what grief this caused you, but be prudent, my beloved, obey your old wife, who thinks only of your good, and who knows that this is the only right step, let Alex. thinks otherwise, it is better to put him aside altogether, since you yourself say that a severe reprimand will upset his nerves, do it for the sake of your glorious guards, and everyone will thank you for it; they are very indignant at his recklessness, as a result of which all their soldiers died. A. conveyed to our Friend what I had said about Sandro's despair, and He was beside himself about it. He talked a lot about this with Secretev, and he claims that he has a lot of material that is quite suitable for the production of airplanes. Won't you send for him and ask him about everything, or won't you send him to Sandro to discuss this matter? It would indeed be a blessing if it were possible to find a way to manufacture these parts here. Forgive me that my first letter is about business, but everything related to the army is so important for all of us, we live by it. I watch by the clock everything that you do during the day, my dear. Yesterday we were together, but it seems like it was a long time ago. Have you forgotten to postpone the call of young soldiers until September 15th, if possible, so that everywhere they can finish their field work? Iza came to meet her at the station, although she still looks bad. Trina still has a cold, won't leave the room. M-me Zizi was here asking where we came from!!! I also had a book. Paley - without a veil, but I did not kiss her. I congratulate you on the holiday of the Transfiguration, my only and my everything! 5th. I warmly thank you for your precious letter, my treasure! Yes, the joy of our meeting is boundless, and now I live only in memories of him. What is even harder for you, my poor angel! Charming weather again - fell asleep after three. I worked in the infirmary, a lot of new faces. Book. Gedr., Taube and Yemelyanov ask me to convey their deepest gratitude for the greetings. I am enclosing here a paper concerning Lopukhin. Botkin again asks for him - Makarov is acting unfairly. A. received a telegram from N.P., he will be at headquarters around the 12th. Honey, I want to take communion with this fast, I count like this: Monday morning, since there is a service in the evening, tomorrow morning and evening, Sunday morning, then I will order 2 more times - this will be a great support for me. A. leaves on Monday - she does not know how long her trip will last. Will you send her a postcard with wishes and parting words for the journey? Just write to her on time. Wonderful weather, we have breakfast on the balcony. Now I have to receive one lady, then Mecca and Apraksin, who is leaving for the front at 4 o'clock. Honey, you won't forget about the rewards for those who are wounded by bombs dropped from airplanes, will you? A. thanks for the tea glass. Now farewell, my sun, my joy. Mentally gently I press you to my heart, shower you with burning kisses. May God bless and protect you, and may He help you in all your undertakings! Remember about Bezobrazov! Forever, my angel, completely yours Sun." This letter was written by Empress Alexandra Feodorovna to her husband Nicholas II at Headquarters from Tsarskoye Selo on August 4 (17), 1916. Compare phrases: "The king has a lot!" "The generals know that we still have many soldiers in Russia, and therefore they do not spare lives ..." 1. The first statement is "there are many ships (soldiers)": "At the king'slot !" "The generals know that we havemany more soldiers in Russia, and therefore do not spare lives ... " 2. The second statement is "In the state (or at the head (s)) (England, Russia ...)" " At the king lot!" "The generals know thatwe have many more soldiersin Russia , and therefore do not spare lives ... " 3. The third statement - "why feel sorry for them!" Phrase "The king has a lot!" was pronounced as a farewell parting word to a sinking ship. "The generals know that we still have many soldiers in Russia, and thereforespare no life..." 4. The fourth statement "Commanders (generals) know ...": The phrase "The king has a lot!" said the commanders or officers of other ships. " The generals know that we still have many soldiers in Russia, and thereforespare no life..." Alexandra Feodorovna Romanova was the granddaughter of the English Queen Victoria and was brought up in England, where she adopted English proverbs, sayings, winged expressions, aphorisms, and also "memes". The British Empire is a maritime power with a large navy, the Russian Empire is a land power with a large land army. Accordingly, there are many ships in England, and many soldiers in Russia. The mentality and psychology of the behavior of military professionals (officers, generals, admirals) are the same everywhere (although they have certain national characteristics). In England, the phrase was pronounced by admirals, ship commanders, naval officers. In Russia, ground officers reasoned in a similar way. Accordingly, Alexandra Fedorovna Romanova, not finding a Russian saying (aphorism, "meme") in the Russian language, transformed and adapted the English "meme" known to her for Russia. How did the phrase composed by Alexandra Fedorovna Romanova become related to Marshal Zhukov, Peter I, Catherine the Great, etc.? Everything is simple and obvious here. Alexandra Feodorovna's letter to her husband reached the addressee. Then Grand Duke Kirill Vladimirovich arrived and "the information was confirmed." Surely Nicholas II used verbatim (or almost verbatim) a phrase from his wife's letter in a conversation with Kirill Vladimirovich or Alekseev. About the fact and content of the conversation, he writes to his wife in a letter dated August 10 (August 23), 1916: " My precious wife! Thank you very much for your lovely letter,Last night I received Kirill, who was returning from the guards, where he spent 6 days.He saw many commanders and officers, and they all told him the same thing about old Bezobrazov, which you already know, so today I talked to Alekseev about this and said that I wanted to fire B. He, of course, agreed with me that it would be better to replace him and appoint a good general. We both thought of someone to replace him - maybe one of the Dragomirov brothers! “So annoying that I forgot to ask Cyrus. about Zelenetsky! But he'll be back in a week, and then I can do it. N.P. seems to be coming here on the 12th. “I would be very glad to see him again. Dmitry will soon be passing through here, I want to keep him here for a few weeks, because Georgy told me that this boy again got it into his head that he would be killed. I'm already counting down the days until you arrive! Darling, I must finish. God bless you!.. I shower your beloved face with hot kisses. Forever your old Nicky. P.S. I am tormented, how to tell Frederiks about Olga's divorce? It's very hard to write about things like this." . What he said to their generals the phrase about the generals who know that there are many soldiers in Russia and therefore they do not protect them - was remembered by the listeners. Perhaps even got accustomed and went to roam further. Then came February 1917. Nicholas II abdicated. New powertraditionally blamed the previous government for all the failures, and also traditionally assuredthat with her everything will be in chocolate. And there were stories that "Nikolaska the Bloody, on the orders of the German tsarina and the German spy Grishka Rasputin, drove the little soldiers to be slaughtered, not sparing them, for there are a lot of soldiers in Russia!" However, the "stone flower" did not come out of the Provisional Government! And the offensive did not work out for him, and the power did not hold. The Bolsheviks seized power. They also won the civil war. The only thing left for the losers - the "whites" - is to write memoirs in exile. And to explain in these memoirs why they are "white", having managed to capture most of the territory of Russia, they still lost to the "red" (Bolsheviks). Of course, the Bolsheviks won solely because they did not spare their soldiers! Jews, Jewish commissars and Jewish commissars drove the Russian Orthodox to the Orthodox machine guns of the "whites". And the "Reds" won the war only because the "Whites" ran out of ammo. Then the Second World War began, then the Great Patriotic War. Part of the "white" emigrants went over to the side of Hitler and enthusiastically continued to write fairy tales about the fact that the Red Army fills up the Germans with corpses and Stalin and others like him do not spare the Orthodox, because the women are still giving birth. After the Second World War, the "cold war" began - all the same "white" emigrants entered the service of the US CIA and Marshal Zhukov began to fill up with corpses. With the collapse of the USSR, the creative intelligentsia of the former Soviet republics, for the most part, went over to American and Western European employers. Within the framework of universal human values, they were given the task of showing the population of the whole world for American dollars and euros, and convincing the population of the former Soviet republics of the USSR that Russians are "subhuman" and an inferior nation, and that from time immemorial they have won wars exclusively by filling up enemies and themselves with corpses. Such renegades as Solzhenitsyn, Solonin, Beshanov, Latynina, Ekho Moskvy and others became famous in this field. Solzhenitsyn, fortunately, died, but most of the rest continue to work on educating an inferiority complex, inhumanity and inferiority in the current population of the Russian Federation. Behind all this collective howl of the liberals, the original essence of the issue was lost - the majority of professional military officers in officer and general ranks are ready to try and try to solve the task assigned to them to the last subordinate. REGARDLESS OF NATIONALITY. And the level of personnel losses largely depends on the level of training of these commanders. And completely independent of the social system in the state. Talented, mediocre, determined, indecisive generals are in all the armies of all states. About the same percentage. Suffice it to recall five years of positional slaughter on the Western Front, when "civilized" and "brilliant" Western European commanders from England, France, Germany, put millions of their soldiers into the ground fighting for the forester's hut in the Verdun region. Also, behind all this, it is forgotten that in Germany it was almost officially decided to fight France to the last French soldier. Quite intelligent, very practical and economic Germans considered that the population of France is smaller than the population of Germany, and France has fewer soldiers. Accordingly, the French soldiers will end faster than the German ones, and Germany will win the war against France, because she will have a certain number of soldiers left. Yes, the losses will be terrible, but victory in the war is at stake, and "frau - they still give birth!" Here is the story of the famous saying.
Georgy Konstantinovich Zhukov - Soviet military leader, Marshal of the Soviet Union, and later Minister of Defense of the USSR, four times Hero of the Soviet Union, holder of two Orders of Victory, winner of many other Soviet and foreign awards. For the Russian people, Georgy Zhukov became one of the symbols of the Victory, the main hero of the Great Patriotic War. He went down in history as a brilliant military leader and a great strategist. But not everyone believes in his unconditional genius. The authors of the documentary "Zhukov" tried to figure out how great his military leadership talents really are, and whether the losses suffered by the Soviet army in the operations he carried out are comparable to the cost of the Victory. After all, during his command, more soldiers died, more pieces of military equipment and small arms were destroyed than ever in the history of wars. The film presents an analysis of declassified documents and gives a new look at historical events.
Release year: 2011.
Production: Russia, TV3.
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November 30, 2014 marked the 75th anniversary of the start of the Soviet-Finnish war, the Winter War, which received in Russia, with the light hand of the poet Alexander Tvardovsky, the name "unfamous". In Finland, this war is called the Great Patriotic War of Finland. On November 30, 1939, unexpectedly, having unilaterally broken the non-aggression pact of 1932, the Soviet Union attacked Finland. The troops crossed the Soviet-Finnish border. Was there a "Mainil incident"? Who was the Finnish People's Army made of? The program involves Russian and Finnish historians. Historians make subtle nuances.
Vasil Stanshov
Years go by, children know less and less about the last war, the participants and witnesses of which were their grandfathers. The children understand the Trojan War almost better, perhaps because its battles appeal to them more than the Discovery documentary series about World War II. But both sound to them like a fairy tale about Little Red Riding Hood or Snow White and her seven dwarfs.
Mark Solonin, Mikhail Meltyukhov
At Radio Liberty Studios, Doctor of Historical Sciences Mikhail Meltyukhov, author of the books "Stalin's Lost Chance. The Soviet Union and the Struggle for Europe" and "September 17, 1939. Soviet-Polish Conflicts." And historian Mark Solonin, author of the books "June 22" and "June 25: Stupidity or aggression?" is in touch with us via Skype from Samara.
Pavlova I.V.
In Soviet historiography for many decades, there were provisions that the October Revolution was “the great beginning of the world proletarian revolution; it showed all the peoples of the world the path to socialism. However, as the authors of the six-volume "History of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union" convinced readers, the party "saw its mission not in "pushing", not in "exporting the revolution", but in convincing the peoples of the advantages of the socialist system by practical example. In reality, everything was done exactly the opposite.
Transfer of Evgeny Kiselyov "Big Politics", 2012. Viktor Suvorov, Mark Solonin and other historians are participating.
Pavel Matveev
Seventy-five years ago, on March 5, 1940, in the Kremlin, at a meeting of the Politburo of the Central Committee of the All-Union Communist Party of Bolsheviks, the top leadership of the Soviet Union, headed by Joseph Stalin, decided to destroy more than 14,700 foreign citizens captured by Soviet punitive bodies - the NKVD during the invasion of the Red Army. army to Poland in September 1939. On the basis of this criminal decision, during April-May 1940, 21,857 people were shot in different places of the Soviet Union (including 14,552 Polish officers and police prisoners of war), whose only fault is from the point of view of those who gave them a death sentence in absentia the verdict was that they were Poles.
Doroshenko V. L., Pavlova K. V., Raak R. Ch.
On November 28 and 29, 1939, a message from the Gavas agency was published in French newspapers, which was a presentation of the speech of I.V. Stalin, uttered at a meeting of the Politburo of the Central Committee of the All-Union Communist Party of Bolsheviks on August 19 of the same year. The message appeared in such newspapers as Le Figaro, Le Petit Journal, Le Journal, Le Temps, L "Action franaise" and others. These publications were immediately reported to Stalin. His refutation "On the false report of the Gavas agency” was published by the Pravda newspaper on November 30.
